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sexyaznotaku- 09-21-2007
yes god i tirelessly debate this with like everyone lolz esp my husband o.O so my question is:
Do you think abortion is right?
jhkplaya888- 09-21-2007
well its not good, but sometime you have to if your life is depending on it
if not just have the baby, and there is a thing called adoption... problem solved...
SimplyAlex- 09-22-2007
Alex shall give you his thoughts about this =P But this is it 4:32 a.m., so err yah =P I'm tired
Firstly, abortion itself should never have been introduced to the scientific world. I am not by all means religious, but i believe that scientists says your not technically alive until you are out of your mothers womb, or where ever you are when she gives birth. In my opinion, this is just scientists trying to justify this new method of not giving birth, to make money. Thats another subject though that we shouldn't get into.
In short, you are alive from the moment the sperm and egg fertilize, no questions asked.
Second, based off the first, how can people kill off their own family? their immediate family none the less?
some people may argue that it was an accident, like birth control pills didn't work, or something to that degree. Accidents do happen, but is that any reason to deny someone life? This precious life that we get only once?
Last point, I saw this bumper sticker. It read:
Why choose abortion? Your mother chose you.
edit: wow it really is 4:32 xD edited some things that sounded confusing >_>"
Gzeno- 09-22-2007
To be totally honest, I believe that abortion can be useful on rare occasions but it should not be used for the simplest things. If you think about it, abortion should be directed at pregnant teens mostly unless it was not an accident. Without abortion, the teen will have to drop out of school to care for the baby, not to mention that if one drops out of school, they will have a low pay job at like Mcdonalds or something. Now, the teen obviously will have a very hard time with her life as a single, low waged, teenage mother. This will cause the baby to suffer as well and might also have an early death causing grief for the mother who dropped out of school for her. But with abortion, neither of the two would have actually suffered while the teen might actually have a chance in life.
Unfortunately, abortions aren't used for those reasons and are more like a fad which is probably why many people are against abortion, for religious reasons or not.
SimplyAlex- 09-22-2007
You bring up good points Gzeno. But I believe that at the core of growing up and becoming an adult is accepting responsibility for actions that you take.
I'm sad to say that I don't think much about all the other 16-18 year olds were I live. They love parties, so much that 3 people in my school almost died from drinking too much. But thats aside the point. The point in trying to get at is that how long will it take for these people to grow up?
I believe that we need to let he teenagers grow up and get the "fruits of their labors" or "let them reap what they sow". How long do we plan to protect them? Will that hinder their ability to grow up?
Also, what it you were the one whose mother got an abortion? Are you willing to give up your life? Like i said before, life is too precious to temper with in this way.
Gzeno- 09-22-2007
True, but but why does the baby have to suffer from the teen's mistakes as well? Isn't it better to end the baby's misfortunes before it knows what hit it? If abortions didn't exist, I would imagine that the suicide rates would be much higher and a large percentage of them will be pregnant. Either that, or they will hurt themselves on purpose to lose the baby, which in any case, is the exact same thing as getting an abortion.
SimplyAlex- 09-22-2007
Life isn't all happiness though. We all have had our share of:
unhappiness, pain, regret, depression, disappointment, anger, desire, embarrassment, annoyance, discontentment, frustration, grief, guilt, hate, jealousy, rage, disgust, fear, and worry
but with that also comes our
Love, dreams, delight, comfort, elation, friendships, joy, yearning, appreciation, and above all hope for a tomorrow thats better than today.
It's no a one package deal, we get both sides to some extent, theres even a quote that goes something like:
One can not experience true happiness unless he has had his own share of unhappiness
What the children decide to do with their life is their own choice, but isn't that better to have let them live and experience all the good things than just cut them off completely? =\
silent_weasal- 09-23-2007
Do I like that abortions take place, no. Do I think they are necessary, yes.
I have to agree with Gzeno on the teenage girl issue. While I do agree that people should deal with the consequences, why is it the child's fault. It is in my opinion horrible for a child to be raised unloved. I witnessed it before with my old neighbors. The 16 year old girl got pregnant and the girl's mother "made her have the baby". A child makes for a poor parent, and the baby received nothing but resentment from the mother for "ruining her life" while the grandmother refers to the child as her daughters "biggest mistake". Those are not the words that should be directed at a child.
And why is it only men are responding?
SimplyAlex- 09-23-2007
Why should the child be the one who suffers? Do we have the right to deny anyone their life that they only have once? Are we the ones who pick and chose who live? Do we only choose the way out thats the easiest for us?
people do make mistakes, but it is what they do about them that counts.
I believe that no one wishes for their child to die. I believe that we, as humans, always strive to attain true happiness.
if you are in fact incapable of raising your child, then there is adoption, although i dont like that idea.
sexyaznotaku- 09-23-2007
because from girls point of view theyll prolly get emotional i wanna see it in mens point of view lolz
i agree with simply alex i mean people make mistakes and its what the person does about it that counts. you get unwanted pregnancy like for your neighbors example abortion isnt always the only choice they have adoption if theyre so incapable of raising the child they can have the kid and give it away to somebody who cant have one atleast youll make someone else happy pluz give ur kid a good life, i dont think abortion is right , well in certain circumstances maybe for example if you got raped but theres always a better way out , without making urself a muderer.
valols- 09-23-2007
Well okay, here's a second female posting here..
In my opinion, I think abortion is neccessary in our society to a certain extent. For example, if the baby has severe medical problems and wouldn't be able to survive anyway, I guess that's where abortion would be useful. Or if it harms the mother's life due to some medical conditions, there wouldn't be any other way.
As for unplanned pregnancies, I'm sorta half/half on it, leaning more to the 'no' side. One part of me agrees with Alex, that the parents should be responsible for what they did. Another part agrees with silent, that the child should not suffer because of what the parents did. For me, I think that if a person is not ready, he/she should not have a baby since it would only make the child suffer. (Well, that mostly applies if the person is not pregnant yet). However, if she is already pregnant, then the person should raise the child if possible.
Even if the person didn't plan the pregnancy, she shouldn't blame the child for 'ruining her life' since her life was already messed up enough to get her pregnant in the first place. I mean if she didn't get pregnant, she might have been in another similar bad or possibly worse situation, such as being an alcoholic, doing drugs or breaking the law and somehow getting caught and thrown in jail.
Besides, even with a child, it is possible to continue with your studies. If it is neccessary, the mother of the child could let her own parents (the child's grandparents) to take care of the child until they graduate. Of course, she can't give the entire responsibility to them, only when she's in classes or when she's busy. There are many people who take up degrees even after they get married and they manage to cope with their studies and their family.
If the parents of the child can't afford to raise the child, they can always work, get a loan from their parents, etc.. If there's a will, there's a way. If they really do not want to have the child, at least give the child a chance to live and put it up for adoption.
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